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Adding CC# dynamic data to existing track.

Discussion in 'Logic Pro X' started by Jay Denson, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. Jay Denson

    Jay Denson Senior member

    Is there a way I can add e.g. mod wheel or pitch bend or other dynamic CC# data to an existing MIDI region?

    I’ve tried recording over a region (no Replace) and adding, say Mod Wheel data. This works but you have to separate the superimposed regions in order to edit either of them.

    The ability to post (as in post-produce) CC# data would be very useful in adding life to instrumental tracks when to add it during the recording (i.e. performance) would require more technique than I sometimes have (depending on the complexity of the instrumental part). And, besides, it’s two or more things to screw up necessitating constant re-recording. I don't mean MIDI Draw - I mean real-time.

    There has to be a way - blessed if I can find it.

    TIA Jay
     
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  3. Tangra

    Tangra Senior member

    Hi,
    You can duplicate that track as many times you want (according to the MIDI event definitions you plan to record). To duplicate a Track (according to the manual) do the following:
    • Choose Track > Other > New Track With Same Channel (or use the corresponding key command).
    • Option-click the Duplicate Track button above the track headers.
    A new track is created below the selected track.

    Select a given track duplication and record Modulation. Select another track duplication and record Expression etc. You can name the Track duplications according to the MIDI definitions.
     
  4. Jay Denson

    Jay Denson Senior member

    Thanks Tangra

    But wont that mean I'm duplicating my audio (MIDI)?

    Jay
     
  5. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Hi Jay,

    Check the MIDI page of your Project Settings. It sounds like "Join with selected regions" is the option you want to have selected in order to be able to record a second pass of MIDI data (doesn't matter if it is CC or note data) and have it automatically merged with the selected region.
     

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  6. Jay Denson

    Jay Denson Senior member

    Hi Eli

    Thanks for the suggestion. However, I don't want the music and CC tracks to join automatically.

    My work-around is to record (non-replace) over the music track. The top layer will be the CC track which I can tweak in the editor. If I want to tweak the music track I drag the CC track out of the way to an empty track below. Of course, while tweaking the music track you won't have the CC track active - but, Hey - it's a workaround. And I can join them later when I'm happy with it.

    Kind regards, Jay
     
  7. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Hi Jay,

    I misunderstood your question. In that case, definitely the "new track with same instrument" command is exactly what you need. You can create as many tracks as you want all pointing to the same underlying channel strip. You can have your CC data and note data on separate tracks, both assigned to the same channel strip.

    Make sure to enable the on/off button in the Configure Track Header box, and you will be easily able to mute the individual tracks when necessary. See the attached screenshot.
     

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  8. Jay Denson

    Jay Denson Senior member

    CC data tracks

    Hi Eli

    Where is "new track with same instrument"? That's obviously not the same as "new track with duplicate settings" which I use a lot.

    Jay
     
  9. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Look at the screenshot in my previous response. It is under the Track menu, in the "Other" sub menu. The default key command assignment for it is Control+Shift+Return.
     
  10. Jay Denson

    Jay Denson Senior member

    Wow - there's a whole new world in there. I'll get right on it. Thanks as always.

    Jay
     
  11. Jay Denson

    Jay Denson Senior member

    Utterly brilliant - just tried it. I've been tearing my hair out. Should've asked you months ago. Thanks ever so much.

    Jay
     
  12. Jay Denson

    Jay Denson Senior member

    Yosemite?

    Off topic - I know. Yosemite? Any comment Eli?

    Jay
     
  13. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Nope. I'm not even on Mavericks yet! :D I'm still on OS 10.8.4. But I do plan on moving up to Yosemite in the not too distant future. Probably in the new year.
     
  14. Jay Denson

    Jay Denson Senior member

    Yosemite

    Cool!! Thanks again for the CC info.

    Jay
     

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