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Logic 9 Drum pads to change Orchestra Instrument articulations?

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by David51, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. David51

    David51 Senior member

    I was wondering if any of you very experienced,or not, Logic users would tell me if a drum Pad like the KorgNano pad or the AkaiLPD8 could be used to change articulations on the fly? My JamPack 4 articulations should work with the Mod wheel but I must have changed something in the EXS Modulation Matrix that disabled the Mod wheel for those articulations,any idea what I might have messed up there?
     
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  3. mattrixx

    mattrixx Senior member

    That's what I use the pads on the Novation Remote25SL for.
     
  4. David51

    David51 Senior member

    Drum Pads for instrument articulations

    Thanks matttrixx, I would ask how but have the feeling you have helped already. Anyone willing to explain the use of these drum pads to change articulations on the fly-as I don't have time to play every part in on the Wind Controller it would help if I could play the MIDI file and change articulations while listening-or is that asking too much of the present technology? I went too far in believing that I would be able to import xml to Cubase 5 but that didn't work out so I'm back in Logic Pro 9.
    Are any of the redmatica bundles capable of changing articulations via cc's assigned to drum pads? Thanks for any input[no pun intended].
     
  5. mattrixx

    mattrixx Senior member

    Hi Dvaid,
    With regard to the drum pad thing, it's got more to do with the information being sent from the pads rather than the pads themselves. I just have them out put note numbers. The real reason I do this is that they are not effected by the 'octave' transposition of the keyboard when using the very different keyboard ranges required when programming the various parts of an arrangement.
    You can, using Redmatica Keymap, easily change the articulation switching to any sort of midi info, but variable controllers seem to be best used for expression of the various articulations rather than the switching itself.
    I do know that many people do it in different ways and as far as the 'scoring' technique I use, it is also in development constantly, as I haven't had a great deal of experience in the orchestral department.
    I hope you find the best way that suits your style.
    Regards,
    Matt
     
  6. David51

    David51 Senior member

    Drum Pads to change instrument articulations?

    Thanks Matt, I understand your explanation, and am fascinated to read that variable controllers would work better than the pad switching. I have ordered an Akai LPD8 which has 8 Pads and 8 Control knobs, if you still have the time and interest I would love to have your opinion about the AKai versus the Korg http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=2940 nanoKONTROL’s flexibility, an attack and decay time can be specified for the eighteen switches. This allows you to smoothly feed controller messages into parameters such as wet/dry levels for an effect, a filter for a synth, or a volume fader for that perfect fade. Looking at the info for the Korg I didn't see any mention of the knobs being used to switch articulations but the attack and delay time is adjustable. Redmatica still beter?
     
  7. mattrixx

    mattrixx Senior member

    Though not completely familiar with the products you mentioned, the main thing to mention here is that the EXS patches themselves have to be programmed to receive the appropriate information, the information transmitted by the hardware devices is just part of it.
    This is where Redmatica Keymap comes in and don't get me wrong, it's not trivial to get this stuff sorted. It does take some understanding, as the Keymap software is extremely flexible and therefore deep.
    I believe you can do most of it in EXS editor within Logic, but I haven't dared to tread there as it's not as well laid out as Keymap. (might be a good idea to look at the videos at the redmatica website, they're pretty informative and demonstrations are by Andrea, the developer of the software himself)
    I am hoping that someone else can jump into this thread with some more info, as I don't believe I am explaining things as well as someone who does this daily.
    I have combined the different articulations of all of the included EXS library orchestra (which is I think, the same as the included orch content from the Kontakt 3 library.. which is derived from VSL) in Logic, to be switched with keyswitches. There are also crossfaded sample layers within each articulation.
    So for example, I have made a single instrument for all French Horn ENS, all French Horn solo... etc and so on.
    But getting back to your original question, there isn't a lot of difference between hardware controllers, as long as you like the feel of them and they can transmit the data you wish to use to make you instruments come to life.

    Regards,
    Matt
     
  8. David51

    David51 Senior member

    Thanks again Matt, I will look at redmatica and see if I understand it,before buying yet more useless software. Must stop and work now.
    best Regards,David
     

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