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Excessive Project Size

Discussion in 'Logic Pro X' started by cyrukoch, Jul 21, 2014.

  1. cyrukoch

    cyrukoch New Member

    Hi,
    Logic Pro X
    I seem to be saving extremely large projects. Even after disabling the save assets option and all other options, my projects (with about 15 audio files) are upwards of 3 to 4 GB. This is true whether I save the project as a file or a folder. If I save it as a folder there are audio files that are saved that are from a completely different project. At the same time, the project file itself is over a GB. Someone told me that the entire project should be under a half a GB.

    Any helpful comments?

    Thanks,
    Cyrus
     
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  3. bayswater

    bayswater Senior member

    Maybe give a little info about the projects and the songs in them would help. For example, a 10 orchestral piece with 36 stereo channels recorded at 96K, 24 bits will be more than 12Gb and could be a lot more if there are lots of audio edits. A 3 minutes song with 8 mono tracks at 44.1 16 bits will be about 130 Mb. If it's all MIDI, less than 1 Mb might be typical.
     
  4. cyrukoch

    cyrukoch New Member

    Thanks Bayswater,

    My files are recorded at 44.1 16 bits, all audio files, generally 15 to 18 mono tracks with varying amounts of editing and overdubs, even some added tracks, usually about 3 to 5 minutes long

    I hope this is a little clearer.

    I appreciate your consideration.

    Cyrukoch
     
  5. bayswater

    bayswater Senior member

    So the basic project would be about half a gigabyte as you were told. It could get larger with loads of overdubs and alternate takes. But 3 or 4G does seem a bit excessive unless you have something like 7 or 8 complete takes per track, or something like that.

    You might see what happens if you use the features listed under "Clean Up Projects", or if you use "Save a Copy As...". If you have accumulated a lot of unused files it might remove this stuff.
     
  6. cyrukoch

    cyrukoch New Member

    Thanks Bayswater,
    I was getting 11GB files because I had the save assets option selected. Unselecting that cut it down to three or 4 gigs but it still saves audio files from a completely different project. I can just erase those manually and still have everything I need for the project. Also my audio bin seems to have all kinds of saved files from other projects. Things are a bit of a mess but I am planning to clean up my hard drive by putting all my logic projects on a back up and starting clean (maybe even a reinstall but not yet). I will then try to clean up the problems one at a time. I have started to try to use both "save a copy as" and "clean up projects" but I can't say yet how well that has worked.

    By the way, I filled a 1 Terabyte HD in two months.

    Do you have any further suggestions?

    Thanks
    Cyru
     
  7. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    You've answered your own question. You've got all kinds of extra files in your project audio browser. So they are getting duplicated with each new project. Unless you excluded Audi files from the assets as well. The solution is to clean up your project audio browser properly.


    Eli Krantzberg
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  8. bayswater

    bayswater Senior member

    As Eli said, you can clean up the project. Look up "Clean Up Project" in the manual. Useful to do towards the end of a project even if you don't have files from other projects in there.
     
  9. cyrukoch

    cyrukoch New Member

    Thanks Gentlemen,
    So, I moved all my projects (well over a TB) to an external hard drive.
    Then I moved one project back to my desktop (11GB).
    I saved it as "Size Test." (11GB)
    I then saved it as Size Test 1 (ST1) without the save audio files option selected 3.25GB
    Then I removed the ST1 file from the folder (leaving all the audio files behind)
    It opened fine and I chose file>project management>clean up and saved it as ST2 1.1GB
    There are 15 audio tracks and 34 regions and the list editors>events lists 34 events.
    So . . . I guess that must be that actual size of my project.
    Is there any way other than bouncing the individual regions to find out what the size of each region (or better yet) track is?

    In any case, 1GB is better than 11GB.

    Thank you,
    Cyru
     
  10. bayswater

    bayswater Senior member

    Tracks size doesn't always mean a lot because it can be made of up regions that are used over and over. Audio file sizes are show in the audio bin which also shows the way the files are split into regions, so that gives you a good idea of their size.
     

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