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Logic 9 LEARNING LOGIC 9 (moving over from DP)

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by orcasound, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. orcasound

    orcasound Member

    Hey guys glad to be on board the forum - I've been a DP guy, well since, it was just P.. right -I picked up L9 yesterday, installed it and will start learning my way around - still using DP on the daily studio stuff (gotta pay the bills).

    Couple things I'm just trying to clear up (and I'm sure as I learn my way around - I'll find these out - but maybe any diehard Logic guys might be able to speed up the process for me.)

    1. In DP, they used midnam and midev files - so that I could select patches from my external MIDI gear - I think that handy feature looks like its not here. I may check out cherrypicker's site - but I assume that I may need to copy them over - and save as a template or something. Is there a screen where I can check out the bank/controller/select messages etc - to make sure taht what I copy is in the right place?

    2. I stem out from DP through a Rosetta 800 into a Dangerous summing box... so I have no need for a master fader... Is there a way to tell Logic to stop assigning it everytime I open a project.?

    3. Is there a way to set the default patch of audio files created - so that it saves them on my audio drive?

    I understand that a lot of these questions may seem newbie type stuff... but I really am trying to examine my workflow with DP - and find the least amount of roadbumps making the transfer
  3. leytonnz

    leytonnz Senior member

    1 dont no

    2-make yourself a template that doesnt have one ie delete it... make some output objects instead file/save as template

    3- when you save the project (keep the asset box checked and logic will record to the audio files folder of that session OR doing the first audio recording logic will ask where you want to record audio to OR file/project settings/recording/recording folder/set..
    im making the huge assumption that "patch"in question 3 was supposed to be "path"
  4. daveyboy

    daveyboy Senior member

    Welcome! I'm also a die hard DP user since it was P and on a Mac IIci. I've been on Logic "professionally" for less than a year. I tell everyone new to rent the great tutorial videos as For $30 you have access to all the videos on that site for one month. It's really great.

    There are many things that aren't obvious in Logic. Some things just can't be done the same as in DP and there are many new things that DP can't do. One of the biggest selling points for me was and still is the crazy cpu efficiency of Logic. I did a test this week where I stayed at a buffer of 64 on a song all the way through mixing. I was running BFD2, RMX, Omnisphere, a few instances of play, 4 Waves gtr3 inserts, many audio tracks and fx. The cpu on Logic was very low the whole time. Unbelievable. I'd never be able to do this in DP at this buffer, ever. Flex is also very cool as well as all the great vis and fx. Truely outstanding stuff.

    I'd also like to know how to get patchlists into Logic. I still have a roland xv3080 with expansion cards. Even though it's never turned on, it would be nice to have the option to be able to find patches quickly. Something tells me this is doable in Logic but might involve a ton of work.
  5. LSchefman

    LSchefman Senior member

    Just as you, I started on Performer (in my case, on a Mac Plus back in 1987!).

    There are things about DP that I still think are great, like chunks, "wait" to record, fade handles, faster setup of multitimbral synth plugs, etc. In fact, the more I think about this list...ah...well.

    But I've used Logic 8, and now 9, for about a year and a half, and have gotten to the point where the things I like about it have made me reluctant to switch back.

    I bought the Orren Merton book, "Logic 8 Power," and honestly think it's a great way to learn the software. I'm sure his Logic 9 version will be due soon, but since most of the features are the same, I'd say even the version 8 book is worth the price. I used it almost as a textbook, working through each feature along with the book.
  6. Billious

    Billious Member

    In the Emagic days Logic and SoundDiver used to work together do this, but I think Apple prefer that you use all softsynths and are therefore encouraged to buy a new, more powerful Mac.

    Anyway, if you can get your patch names as a list in a text program, with one patch name per line, copy the whole list, double-click on a multi-instrument in Logic's environment, and choose "paste all names" from the options menu.

    Another possibility: there are (or used to be...) "environment" files available which contain multi-instruments filled with banks of preset patch names for various synths; you could copy and paste the appropriate names into your multi-instruments. They used to be (still are?) available at the yahoogroups version of this list, (I think) at Len Sasso's site:, and possibly even somewhere on this site.

    And yes, once you've done this, save it as part of a template file.

    Double-click the top border of a multi-instrument in the environment window.

    Good luck! :)
  7. nk_e

    nk_e New Member


    A huge help to me were the video tutorials from MacProVideo. There's enough that is different between DP and Logic to drive you a bit nuts, and I found this to be a really quick way to wrap my head around stuff. There's a "Tips 'n Tricks" series by Steve Horlick that is particularly helpful after you get the basics down.

    I just purchased some of the groovebox Logic stuff so can't vouch for it yet. I did find one of their Reason tutorials pretty helpful.

    Logic is really not as complicated or "clunky" as some over at Motunation believe. There are definitely some things in DP that are missed, but then there are things in Logic that you definitely can't find in DP.

    Much luck...

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