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Logic 8 MIDI Library?

Discussion in 'Logic 8' started by mk3, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. mk3

    mk3 Senior member

    Hello -

    Is it possible to store MIDI sequences/regions (phrases, chord progressions, grooves, etc) in Logic without storing the associated channel strips?

    The Loops area seems to only allow storing MIDI with a full software instrument channel strip.

    (As an alternative, one can of course store MIDI regions in the Finder using the Export MIDI Region command).

    mk3
     
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  3. Eli

    Eli Senior member


    Sure. Just save your project with the regions you want in them. You can manipulate the regions separately from their Channel Strips and move them to be on whatever track you want.
     
  4. mk3

    mk3 Senior member

    Dear Eli,

    Thank you for the reply...Perhaps I misunderstand your suggestions, or was not quite clear in my own query.

    What I would like is to build a library of MIDI regions (phrases, chord progressions, grooves, etc) which can be accessed from any project. Essentially a library which works like the Loops browser, Library, or Audio Bin, but without having associated channel strips or instruments. Just bare MIDI regions. I would rather not have these regions in tracks (for example, in a template), as this library could become quite large over time. So I would like the functionality like the Loops browser, or Audio Bin, etc, but just for MIDI regions alone.

    Perhaps this is not possible in Logic.

    Cheers,
    mk3
     
  5. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    No, that isn't possible currently. The closest thing you can do is either:

    A. build up a library of regions, save them in your template, put them on a no output track, and then hide the track.

    Or,

    B. as you build up your collection, export them as standard midi files and store them logically (you'll have to do this manually though and figure out your own sorting system - maybe chords, grooves, phrases, etc in separate folders) so that they can either be easily imported when needed, or easily dragged and dropped from the Finder into the Arrange Window.

    Or,

    C. Store them as green apple loops. But store them with an empty software instrument channel strip. No instrument or plug ins called up. I'm not sure if this will work; I haven't tried it. But it could be an interesting solution!
     
  6. mk3

    mk3 Senior member

    As I thought...
    I'll try out your Plan C also and see what happens.
    Otherwise sounds like B is the way to go.

    mk3
     
  7. mk3

    mk3 Senior member

    Responding to this old thread of mine.

    I did try this. It works, to the extent that you can drag the green loop into a track with an empty channel strip and said channel strip remains empty.

    However, caveat emptor: If you drag the loop into a track with a channel strip that already includes plugins, this will remove all those plugins!

    That is, the green MIDI Apple Loop with an empty channel strip stores its "empty" setting, and will impose that on the destination track's channel strip.

    Not the behavior I would want, as I may want to load chord progressions directly into a channel strip already set up with plugins.

    Another problem is that the green Apple Loop will no longer have a preview sound option in the Loops browser. All in all, not ideal.

    Maybe your Plan B is the best option. It is still possible to preview those looks in QuickTIme (although with an awful default sound; is it possible to change the default sound of QuickTIme?)
     

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