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Logic 8 Notation-score display doesn't match staff styles

Discussion in 'Logic 8' started by bobbolinger, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. bobbolinger

    bobbolinger New Member

    I've read 80 p. into notation in the manual; the staff styles box is still a mystery b/c the score display doesn't match the style box;
    right now I have two midi tracks
    I have chosen a dual track style which is supposed to give me 2 staffs, treble & bass
    however, both staffs show as treble in the display
    same issue if I choose piano styles 1234
    dragging a clef sign over doesn't help b/c it changes all staffs to that clef
  3. JuanTahnahmahrah

    JuanTahnahmahrah Senior member

    Did you assign each part to a separate MIDI channel? Logic uses "different" MIDI channels in the score editor, that do not affect what you are doing in the arrange window. You could have a trumpet part using MIDI channel 2 (in the arrange window) to play back a sample on a different computer/keyboard -- but assign it to MIDI channel 4 (in the score editor) if you wanted to have it display on a certain staff. This should be explained in the manual.
  4. peterlemer

    peterlemer Senior member

    can you send screenshots of the upper left hand of your score page and the style windows?

  5. bobbolinger

    bobbolinger New Member



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  6. Jay Asher

    Jay Asher Senior member

    It appears to be two separate MIDI regions. You have to merge them for the staff style to apply to both of them.
  7. sonnykeyes

    sonnykeyes Senior member

    I notice your staff style is called "New Style." You need to assign this staff style to the piano track now that you've created it - it took me ages to figure this out when I started doing Notation in Logic!
  8. peterlemer

    peterlemer Senior member

    'New Style' as displayed is fine, AFAICT. It is correct for displaying a piano part. The only thing missing is the name 'piano'.
    The problem , I suggest, lies with the fact that he is applying a piano style to 2 seperate piano tracks, when it is designed to display only one.

    there are 2 ways to deal with this, and the simplest is to merge the two tracks into 1, ensure the combined style has 2 MIDI channels for treble and bass,
    Then separate the treble and bass using the voice separator tool

    the 2nd way is to create two mono styles: say 'pno treble' and 'pno bass' each with their own style rules to suit, and set up a 'Score Set' to display them as a treble and bass pair

    I'd love to post screenshots of my own but unfortunately have a session first thing tomorrow and must get some sleep. If this isn't clarified within 2 days, I'll try to post some

  9. sonnykeyes

    sonnykeyes Senior member

    If the 'New Style' had been assigned to either of the displayed regions, the Notation window would be showing a Grand Staff (two staves bracketed together, treble and bass clefs) with the notes from one region split according to whatever the split field is set to in the 'New Style' parameters. As we are still seeing only a single stave for each region, it's clear that Bob hasn't yet assigned his 'New Style' to the regions. That said, Peter is also correct that the style cannot be applied successfully to two separate regions.

    Bob, do this: make all the notes in the upper region MIDI channel 1 and all the notes in the lower region MIDI channel 2. THEN merge the regions, then assign your 'New Style' to the newly merged region as follows: click on the tiny triangle next to the name 'Yamaha Grand Piano - merged' (or whatever the region is called after merging) in the upper left partbox. A menu of parameters will open up, and the topmost one is the Score Style where you can select 'New Style' which is probably at the bottom of the list. You also need to scroll to the right end of the Score Style parameters and make the staves split by channel, with 1 on top and 2 on the bottom. That should do the trick, let us know if it doesn't.
  10. JuanTahnahmahrah

    JuanTahnahmahrah Senior member

    I used the piano roll editor to enter a treble and bass part into the arrange window. When I selected Logic's default "piano" style, in the score editor, it displayed properly.

    The default "piano" style (applied as in post above, discussing "New Style") assigns the upper/lower voice split to middle C. The voice separation tool or different MIDI channels allow more flexibility.

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  11. bobbolinger

    bobbolinger New Member

    THANKS ALL, will work on this & let you know if it doesn't get worked out

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