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Logic 9 Recommendation for a music production book using Logic Pro 9?

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by ZillaG, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. ZillaG

    ZillaG New Member

  3. ZillaG

    ZillaG New Member

    Anyone? Surely such a book exists!
  4. JuanTahnahmahrah

    JuanTahnahmahrah Senior member

    Buried within the annals of the forum, a diligent search will unveil links and recommendations.

    Now that you have done that, I might suggest the title, Mixing Audio, Concepts, Practices and Tools, by Roey Izhaki. Published 2008 by Focal Press, ISBN: 987-2405-2068-1 . . . 566 pages, includes a DVD with 2000 audio example files and four different sample mixes: Rock, Hip-Hop/Urban/Grime, Techno and DnB (Drum and Break).

    Purchased mine at Amazon.com, but you might luck out and find a previously circulated copy somewhere. You can also do an Amazon search, and will find many possibilities, aimed at different levels.

    The above book is not Logic specific. My favorite Logic work is by David Dvorin, less about mixing--and more about navigating Logic's illogical protocol.
  5. ZillaG

    ZillaG New Member

    Thanks Juan. Yes I did look before even my initial post, and did see the book you mentioned. But, as you pointed out, it's not Logic specific, and the other Logic books I've seen, including the one you seen, do not have the content in the Mixing... book. I'm really "wishing" for a book that kills both birds; hence the post.
  6. ZillaG

    ZillaG New Member

    Even in the "Apple Pro Training Series: Logic Pro 9 Advanced Music Production," it mainly talks about advanced Logic topics. It doesn't, for example, talk about EQ'ng backup vocals, using compression on a rock guitar. I'm wishing for a book that talks about these sample "production/mixing" topics, and shows you how to do them in Logic.
  7. EastWest Lurker

    EastWest Lurker Senior member

    That is because there is no standard way to EQ vocals or compress rock guitar because of how dissimilarly they can be recorded and sound. The first Apple Pro Training series book does a pretty good job of giving examples of these techniques. Beyond that, you are looking to codify something that is not codify-able IMHO.
  8. JuanTahnahmahrah

    JuanTahnahmahrah Senior member

    I believe the most important process is capturing the original signal. EQ and compression can isolate a part in a mix, but they will not put back what was missing from the get-go.

    But now that you have a Neumann U67, still sticky from Frank Sinatra's spit--your signal is pristine and just needs a tweak.

    Consider the Logic Audio FX Collection--500 Professional Presets for the Internal Plug-Ins, by Ralf Kleinermanns. Published in 2000 by Wizoo GmbH, Bremen, Bundesrepublik Deutschland. ISBN 3-934903-30-4, translated by Thomas D. Green.

    Includes a CD with audio samples. Released when Logic 4 was at its height, and the wizards were known as Emagic.

    Some of my favorites: Big Cathedral, Elvis Echo, Mr. Roboto, Clavi Guitar, and who can resist the Vader inspired Dark Wah.
  9. ZillaG

    ZillaG New Member

    EastWest, Juan thanks for both your replies.

    If the Mixing Concepts book Juan mentioned was written for Logic Pro, that would have been the ticket. NOT a standards, but a great guide. At some point I'll probably get tha too.

    And yes getting a hot original signal is the first step, and I'm learning that too with what I have. I'll check into that book you mentioned Juan, thanks.

    For example a friend showed me how to use the Analyze tool for on the EQ plugin to show the peak freqs of my singer, say around 2kHz. I knew how to do this already. But then he told me to bring up the use an EQ plugin on my acoustic guitar and this time to cut the signal around the 2kHz freq so it does not muddy the vocal track. It made a big difference! I then played with this more, and got better results.

    IOW, my friend showed me a tip with the tool, and I ran with it.
  10. EastWest Lurker

    EastWest Lurker Senior member

    If you are recording 24 bit in a 32 bit float app like Logic, you do not need to get a "hot" signal. If you record anywhere from -18 dB to -6 dB you are just fine as you have lots of bits.
  11. ZillaG

    ZillaG New Member

    I meant "hot" signal figuratively LOL!

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