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Logic 9 sound midi events with cursor?

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by edurbrow, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. edurbrow

    edurbrow Senior member

    Is there a way to drag the cursor over midi events and hear them as you drag over them? I often want to drag very slowly and listen to things vertically note by note chord by chord in my own speed.
    TIA
     
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  3. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    You can't audition notes by dragging the cursor over them. But you _can_ audition notes by clicking on them. Make sure your MIDI output button is enabled in the MIDI editor you are using. MIDI will then sound when the notes are clicked on.
     
  4. edurbrow

    edurbrow Senior member

    Really? That was something I got used to in my other DAW. I was thinking more in terms of hearing all notes in all midi tracks as I drag over them. How does one audition in such a way? For example, if you have a large score with dozens of tracks and you think you hear a wrong note somewhere in a fast passage, isn't there a way of scrolling slowly as you can within an audio region? Do I have to change the tempo every time I want to hear a small portion of the score very slowly?
    Thank you.
     
  5. Doug Zangar

    Doug Zangar Senior member

    Actually, if you want to work in the score editor the solo tool does scrubbing. I'm not a big fan of the way it works (not a good motion to it), but it does allow you to scrub one or more tracks.
     
  6. edurbrow

    edurbrow Senior member

    Thanks. I'll have a look at it.
     
  7. edurbrow

    edurbrow Senior member

    I could not get scrubbing to work in the score editor at all with the scrubber tool or key commands.

    I did do some experimenting though in the Arrange window. Below I've quoted from the manual and indented my responses.

    Scrubbing Particular Regions
    The following list outlines the relationship between scrubbing and region selection:

    If no regions are selected, all regions are scrubbed.

    It just draws a rectangle and nothing plays

    If you select a specific audio region, only it is scrubbed.

    Yes.

    If you drag to select or Shift-select audio regions on different tracks, only the selected audio regions are scrubbed.

    Yes.

    MIDI regions (software and external MIDI) are always scrubbed, regardless of the selection status (provided that the Scrubbing with Audio in Arrange project setting is active).

    That seems not to be true, at least with the scrubber tool and mouse. If you can select one midi region and scrub in only that one, that would again make the statement false. In fact, it seems if a region isn't selected it won't sound if you use the scrubber tool.

    The Mute or Solo status of all tracks and regions has an effect on what you hear when scrubbing, so you can make use of them to scrub audio parts in isolation (or with particular software or external MIDI instrument tracks).

    Yes.



    MIDI-Controlled Scrubbing
    The Scrub by MIDI value (-2-) function (available in the Controller Assignments window; see the Logic Pro Control Surfaces Support manual) is designed to allow scrubbing via external MIDI control. You can assign any MIDI controller number to this function. Data bytes over 64 scrub forward, and those under 64, scrub backward.

    Oddly, the scrub controls on my keyboard, which I had assigned to [ and ], did seem to play all midi tracks whether they were selected or not, but NOT the audio track which I selected.

    I tried to have scrub forward and backward learn the knob control of my Korg Kontrol, but it seems to recognize one positive number only so it would only go forwards and usually just one little step, so I'd have to keep turning back past 12:00 and go to the right again. Useless. Probably a default of the Korg not sending bytes over 64 as I was getting numbers in the single digit range.

    This is progress anyway.
    cheers,
     
  8. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Hi Ed,

    Not to overlook the obvious, but why don't you just open a MIDI editor and use the left and right arrow keys to move from note to note. If MIDI out is enabled, you will hear each note as you arrow through them.
     
  9. Doug Zangar

    Doug Zangar Senior member

    You must use the SOLO tool to do this - it does work. You must exaggerate the motion - go well past the note to hear it.
     
  10. LVP

    LVP New Member

    I would like to add that I seem to get very inconsistent results with scrubbing. I was able to do it as Doug suggests, as long as the solo tool is selected AND the solo button is on in the Arrange window. Then it would not do it anymore.
    Is this a bug anyone else has experienced?
    As edurbrow noted, other DAWs do this, I am used to quick checking a score this way.

    Anybody else have this problem?
     
  11. Doug Zangar

    Doug Zangar Senior member

    You don't say anything about your system so I don't know what you're using BUT here the solo tool scrubs in the Score Editor WITHOUT any solo functions on in the Arrange window on my system. Consistently...... albeit awkwardly.
     
  12. LVP

    LVP New Member

    Thank you, Doug, for pointing out the lack of system stats in my posts. I will add them today. Beyond your method, I have discovered another fair method for scrubbing that was described in 2009 by Ming.
    Being new to the Logic interface had me scrambling to understand how to perform the activity he described, but I get it now, and will share it as a new thread.
    If my minor league description seems unclear, please weigh in.
     
  13. Eli

    Eli Senior member

    Do you have your transport in pause mode? Scrubbing multiple tracks like you want to do might work better like that (I'm not in front of Logic at the moment to try for myself).
     

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