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Logic 9 Wrong Notation Grouping

Discussion in 'Logic 9' started by Christopher Pratt, Mar 31, 2012.

  1. I have been using Logic and its ancestor Notator Creator since the mid-80s. I will admit that I use it a lot for scoring as well as for arranging and composing and I am told that as a scoring package it does not work as well as Sibelius.
    Has Apple conceded that area? The notation aspect of Logic seems not to have changed much in successive versions and there are significant weaknesses.

    One area which frustrates me is that we were taught that a dotted note at the beginning of a beat is FOLLOWED by a note (NOT DOTTED) which makes its rhythmic value up to a full beat or a subdivision of the beat. In practice it means that a beat grouping NEVER finishes with a dotted note unless that note itself is of a value of one full beat.

    For example- I am trying precisely to notate "mordents" for one of my pupils rather than relying on rather imprecise "ornament" superscript. I am writing in 12/8. The basic notation needed without ornament is 1/4 followed by 1/8. (i.e. one beat in compound 12/8) I need to write two 1/32 notes (the mordent ) at the beginning of the 1/4. This should then be followed by a 1/16 note tied to an 1/8 note to make up the 1/4. Logic insists on following the 1/32 notes with a dotted 1/8 and then writes the following discrete 1/8. This isn't just confusing, it's notationally incorrect.

    If anyone can understand these ramblings of a diseased mind and knows how I can make the program work correctly I shall be eternally grateful. It offends me, as a teacher, to hand my pupils material that I know to be incorrect because I can't correct it.

    I know- lighten up!!!!!
  3. Doug Zangar

    Doug Zangar Senior member

    Is this the look you want? Drop a user rest (1/16th) on beat two of the first 12/8 beat.

    The score editor isn't up to Finale or Sibelius, but it's pretty good. I've put out a video tutorial on it and there is one old (but fairly current) book out and a new one to be released soon, should you want to dig in deeper.

    Attached Files:

  4. That is precisely what I'm looking for although my final 1/8 is a different note. You acieved it presumably by the method that you described but I must admit that I don't understand the operational "logic" (sic) of the method. Thanks.
  5. Doug Zangar

    Doug Zangar Senior member

    I'm not quite clear why it works either, but I never argue with success. The user rest is handy for all sorts of weird timing expressions that aren't quite right.

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